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geedub
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Josh2002 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:32 pm Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not the same situation we were in prior to them arriving? So we are no worse off than we were then.
I think the biggest difference is that the club is now under the control of the brothers and a group of investors who may now become completely disengaged/disinterested. In this position, it may therefore be more difficult for the Trust and/or others to take appropriate steps to put the club on a sound footing, if required.

I was about to say that we may be able to expect the actual investor group to act reasonably if the brothers are now taking more of a back seat however I have just seen that Scott Forbes has resigned as a director of Ramayana (on 13 May but filed on 31 May - same day as he resigned from the club board) leaving the brothers as the sole directors of Ramayana. This feels like a negative development - washing his hands of the whole thing I guess.
Tony
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Interesting development. Even more need for the club and owners to clarify what is happening. Forbes was a key part of the Ramayana bid team.
EastTerracer
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Josh2002 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:32 pm Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not the same situation we were in prior to them arriving? So we are no worse off than we were then.
The difference is we now have those two self publicists (who have no funds or seemingly common sense) controling Ramayana who still control the club.
RogerB
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Josh2002 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:32 pm Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not the same situation we were in prior to them arriving? So we are no worse off than we were then.
Geedub and East Terracer have already responded to this but can i also add that, when the Petruzzos took over, we had a team of experienced players at this level. Yes, we were flirting with relegation but we had a reasonable chance of escaping. All we have now is two-thirds of a team that looks to have zero chance of avoiding a downward spiral.
Also, we had a volunteer force who were experienced in the day-to-day running of a non-league club. Few of these have survived the brothers' cull.
So, yes, Josh, I think we are worse off than we were prior to them arriving.
EastTerracer
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geedub wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 8:05 pm I was about to say that we may be able to expect the actual investor group to act reasonably if the brothers are now taking more of a back seat however I have just seen that Scott Forbes has resigned as a director of Ramayana (on 13 May but filed on 31 May - same day as he resigned from the club board) leaving the brothers as the sole directors of Ramayana. This feels like a negative development - washing his hands of the whole thing I guess.
The brothers had previously described Chelsea fan Forbes as the chairman of the investment vehicle.
Lord Elpus
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RogerB wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:32 am
Josh2002 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:32 pm Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not the same situation we were in prior to them arriving? So we are no worse off than we were then.
Geedub and East Terracer have already responded to this but can i also add that, when the Petruzzos took over, we had a team of experienced players at this level. Yes, we were flirting with relegation but we had a reasonable chance of escaping. All we have now is two-thirds of a team that looks to have zero chance of avoiding a downward spiral.
Also, we had a volunteer force who were experienced in the day-to-day running of a non-league club. Few of these have survived the brothers' cull.
So, yes, Josh, I think we are worse off than we were prior to them arriving.
Anyone know if those people who were employed on a FT basis to do various roles off the pitch are still around? There were a few, and they can't have been earning peanuts if working FT. I'm guessing Louis (Media) must still be around due to our very professional looking (if occasionally a bit frustrating re actual info) social media stuff...
geedub
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Lord Elpus wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:48 amI'm guessing Louis (Media) must still be around due to our very professional looking (if occasionally a bit frustrating re actual info) social media stuff...
Louis has been doing all the interview videos recently and, I would say, does a good job and earns his keep.

I guess the roles that have a biggest questions mark against them are Head of Staff and Chief Technology Officer. I assume the CTO is/was not a full-time role (should have just been a consultant used as needed - which possibly it actually was). I'm also not clear if Head of Staff was a full-time role but that one appears that it may have been.
Josh2002
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RogerB wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:32 am
Josh2002 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 7:32 pm Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not the same situation we were in prior to them arriving? So we are no worse off than we were then.
Geedub and East Terracer have already responded to this but can i also add that, when the Petruzzos took over, we had a team of experienced players at this level. Yes, we were flirting with relegation but we had a reasonable chance of escaping. All we have now is two-thirds of a team that looks to have zero chance of avoiding a downward spiral.
Also, we had a volunteer force who were experienced in the day-to-day running of a non-league club. Few of these have survived the brothers' cull.
So, yes, Josh, I think we are worse off than we were prior to them arriving.
Fair points raised, I welcome all your responses and understand from that point. Apologies if this came across in the wrong way.
Shepperton Supporter
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In these ever changing times it looks that only Will and Louis look to be still there. It will be interesting to see if we continue to pay academy players to do match day duties (like litter picking) that have previously been done by volunteers. Think we all can recall other examples of how the money was spent?
When you consider that there were promises of 3G pitch, led floodlights and other ground improvements that have never taken place , a certain amount of disappointment hangs over the club.
Are we worse off than before? The atmosphere has changed . Familiar faces are no longer there. Nice to see new folk, one can only hope they are around when results fall off!
Jamie
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We the new floodlights needed as part of ground grading with the required standard for the level?
TW3 Beaver
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Jamie wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:58 pm We the new floodlights needed as part of ground grading with the required standard for the level?
I believe the floodlights do need upgrading.
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