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Charlatans

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:52 pm
by EastTerracer
Had to chuckle at the lack of self awareness in the brothers latest LinkedIn post.

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/ur ... 325465088/

Re: Charlatans

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:07 pm
by geedub
Laughable.

Just imagine being a club "dependent on funders who will eventually tire of putting cash". In April, the club released an announcement seeming to indicate we were desperately looking for new funders and clearly this season we are running on a budget way below that of last season. Also, according to my calculations, average attendance figures at the Bev for the first 7 games this season are about 18% below last season (or was it that last season's attendance numbers were not reliable...) In any event, it doesn't appear that clear that we have been following a "solid business strategy"- although maybe finally now we are starting to learn to live within our means.

Maybe one of the aspirational pitchside signs at the Bev should have been "Be Self-Aware"...
(On which subject, we are now a third of the way through the season and have still not managed to get any pitchside advertising in place - this after clearing out all the previous pitchside advertising at the start of last season)

Re: Charlatans

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:31 pm
by Alphawave
I think he means well and sounds proud of the club. But he comes across like some sort of amateur philosopher.

Re: Charlatans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:36 am
by Morticia
For those that do not have access to LinkedIn.

Football is full of charlatans – but don’t lose hope. The ecosystem is crawling with self-proclaimed “experts” who are really just out for a payday or to boost their cool factor. From brokers and agents to would-be investors, most of them are more obsessed fans than actual pros. And honestly, that fanaticism clouds any sense they might have had!

Too many leagues and clubs are overrun by these dinosaurs who block progress while preaching “financial wisdom.” Irony? After 4+ years in the game, I’m still optimistic. There’s room for real change—especially when we stop mixing fandom with business. Without a solid business strategy and strong community engagement, clubs' futures hang by a thread, dependent on funders who will eventually tire of putting cash.

Plot twist: I’m not a football fanatic so maybe my job is to start calling out these clowns, stay tuned! At least at Hampton & Richmond FC, the value is real—1,600 people showing up to a 6th division match. We didn’t win on Saturday, but we sure made a lot of people smile!

Check out the album below—because sometimes, football’s still worth it.

Link: https://lnkd.in/eA4Pd-tf

What are some of the best matchdays experiences you’ve been to? Please share!

Movember

hashtag#businessoffootball hashtag#value hashtag#community hashtag#upthebeavers

Re: Charlatans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:46 am
by Tony
Did I see our previous chairman Scott Forbes at the game last night? Not sure if that is significant in any way but suggests some of the investors are still interested.

Re: Charlatans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:32 am
by EastTerracer
Tony wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:46 am Did I see our previous chairman Scott Forbes at the game last night? Not sure if that is significant in any way but suggests some of the investors are still interested.
Not sure, didn't see him but someone called Joel Forbes presented MoM.

Re: Charlatans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:53 am
by Les1949
Yes, Scott Forbes was there. As was Dowse.

Re: Charlatans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:28 am
by Shepperton Supporter
I think Scott Forbes has been to another home game recently. Don’t think the brothers were there again. Dowse is often around, lives locally and watches a lot of games.

Re: Charlatans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:16 am
by RogerB
EastTerracer wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:32 am
Tony wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:46 am Did I see our previous chairman Scott Forbes at the game last night? Not sure if that is significant in any way but suggests some of the investors are still interested.
Not sure, didn't see him but someone called Joel Forbes presented MoM.
And a few games ago, wasn't the MoM presented by Jerry Ferrario who i thought was one of the American (ex)owners?

Re: Charlatans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:37 pm
by EastTerracer
RogerB wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:16 am And a few games ago, wasn't the MoM presented by Jerry Ferrario who i thought was one of the American (ex)owners?
One of, I think 27, entities who between them own half of the 'B' shares in Ramayana. Not in his own name though.

Re: Charlatans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:31 pm
by EastTerracer
Morticia wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:36 am For those that do not have access to LinkedIn.

Football is full of charlatans – but don’t lose hope. The ecosystem is crawling with self-proclaimed “experts” who are really just out for a payday or to boost their cool factor. From brokers and agents to would-be investors, most of them are more obsessed fans than actual pros. And honestly, that fanaticism clouds any sense they might have had!

Too many leagues and clubs are overrun by these dinosaurs who block progress while preaching “financial wisdom.” Irony? After 4+ years in the game, I’m still optimistic. There’s room for real change—especially when we stop mixing fandom with business. Without a solid business strategy and strong community engagement, clubs' futures hang by a thread, dependent on funders who will eventually tire of putting cash.

Plot twist: I’m not a football fanatic so maybe my job is to start calling out these clowns, stay tuned! At least at Hampton & Richmond FC, the value is real—1,600 people showing up to a 6th division match. We didn’t win on Saturday, but we sure made a lot of people smile!

Check out the album below—because sometimes, football’s still worth it.

Link: https://lnkd.in/eA4Pd-tf

What are some of the best matchdays experiences you’ve been to? Please share!

Movember

hashtag#businessoffootball hashtag#value hashtag#community hashtag#upthebeavers
Thanks for posting the LinkedIn piece by the brothers.

I wonder how our owners would fare if we created a checklist from their key points:
  • self-proclaimed “experts” who are really just out for a payday or to boost their cool factor
  • preaching “financial wisdom”
  • solid business strategy
  • strong community engagement
  • dependent on funders who will eventually tire of putting cash
  • clowns

Re: Charlatans

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:42 pm
by JimS
Morticia wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:36 am For those that do not have access to LinkedIn.

Football is full of charlatans – but don’t lose hope. The ecosystem is crawling with self-proclaimed “experts” who are really just out for a payday or to boost their cool factor. From brokers and agents to would-be investors, most of them are more obsessed fans than actual pros. And honestly, that fanaticism clouds any sense they might have had!

Too many leagues and clubs are overrun by these dinosaurs who block progress while preaching “financial wisdom.” Irony? After 4+ years in the game, I’m still optimistic. There’s room for real change—especially when we stop mixing fandom with business. Without a solid business strategy and strong community engagement, clubs' futures hang by a thread, dependent on funders who will eventually tire of putting cash.

Plot twist: I’m not a football fanatic so maybe my job is to start calling out these clowns, stay tuned! At least at Hampton & Richmond FC, the value is real—1,600 people showing up to a 6th division match. We didn’t win on Saturday, but we sure made a lot of people smile!

Check out the album below—because sometimes, football’s still worth it.

Link: https://lnkd.in/eA4Pd-tf

What are some of the best matchdays experiences you’ve been to? Please share!

Movember

hashtag#businessoffootball hashtag#value hashtag#community hashtag#upthebeavers
Are you sure this wasn't someone writing about the clown brothers?